Directors and creative directors
On Friday I went to see Ralph Fiennes being interviewed for the London Film Festival.
He seemed quite remarkably lovely, but that aside, he had a few words about the differences between working with Steven Spielberg and Anthony Minghella, both of whom directed him to Oscar nominations.
The former was a very vocal director and was often very hands on. The film he directed Fiennes in (Schindler’s List) involved the portrayal of a sadistic concentration camp guard. If you watch the performance it’s full of odd little tics and quirks, which you might have thought were down to Fiennes’s interpretation (the one mentioned particularly was a shot of Fiennes holding a rifle across his shoulders and using that pose to stretch in the morning). They were actually Spielberg’s suggestions. He would keep the camera rolling and bark orders at Fiennes to look a certain way or make a certain movement. Then he cut these quirky asides together to create a really nuanced and disturbing portrait. In effect Spielberg was giving Fiennes line reads and they made the ‘performance’ much better.
Minghella, on the other hand, was a little different: he would allow Fiennes to give his own performance then, if required, take him aside and speak to him out of the earshot of others to gently suggest other ways of conveying the character (of Count Laszlo de Almásy in The English Patient). He too would give Fiennes line reads, but only after seeing the actor’s attempt at the performance.
I mention these differing styles as an illustration of the adage that there is more than one way to successfully skin a cat, but also to apply that adage to the dark art of trying to elicit a performance from someone. It’s a tricky old game: you could be like Arsène Wenger and refuse to change your style no matter to whom you are attempting to apply it to; or you could be like 98% of other managers and adapt yourself somewhat to the different demands of the object of your potential influence. You could try smarmy charm, like David Frost; or withering disdain, like Simon Cowell. You could be passively-aggressively slightly crazy, like Tony Kaye; or a calm monument of steady assurance, like David Abbott.
I’ve had CDs who have been barky and angry; I’ve had CDs who have been calm and measured. Some have let me find my own ways of improving an ad; others have suggested their own solutions (which are then quite hard to avoid using); some have had very high standards; some have not given much of a toss. Some have been pally; others intimidating.
Tomorrow I’m going to post a roundtable discussion between five US ECDs where this very question comes up, but I’d also be interested to know your perspective on this matter, whether as a CD or as someone who works for a CD. Does a single method lead to the best results? Or are there many solutions that depend on the people and situations involved?
Answers in the comments section.
I worked at Fallon.
I had a nervous breakdown.
But i did good work while i was there.
I now work elsewhere for a really lovely guy and am struggling to do good work, he’s happy with whatever i churn out.
I wish i still worked for Richard.
Absolutely, the cat can be skinned in many different ways.
From my (brief) experience, it boils down to communicating expectation. That feeling that the nothing is more important than the task at hand, impressing the importance of the work and making it worth staying up late for.
The best CD gets you to be the best you that you can be. The worst CD just wants you to be exactly like them. The worst CD of all wants you to be like them without giving you any idea of what that is.
Love this topic. I don’t think there’s a ‘right answer’. Generally, people CD according to their personalities, and learn as they go along. Unless of course they have one of those personalities that is convinced they know everything already.
I also think that you learn from your own CDs.
I often catch myself reacting a bit like Peter Souter would when I worked for him.
I thought the client was the creative director now.
The older I have got, the less tolerant I have become on so-called mavericks. 99% of them were shit. Richard was the only genuinely gifted one. Awful though it was to be there.
In my humblest opinion, a good CD gets a feel for what works for you and what doesn’t. If you respond well to lots of yelling and gnashing of teeth, he will treat you as such. If you’re more the timid and shy introvert who only responds to careful grooming, he’ll do that.
Much like a sergeant in the trenches knows how to get the best out of his troops.
There’s nothing better than sitting down first thing on a Monday, sipping on your warm cup of tea and watching holocaust re-enactments.
This, in my opinion, was Speilbergs last great movie. A one time master and had he left his career after this movie, would have an impeccable portfolio. So many timeless classics you can watch over and over again, Duel, Jaws, Close encounters just to mention a few.
Now he just spews out the same formulaic hollywood drivel and splashes mud over his legendary status. Although it’s too late for him to do a Cantona now, he should make one final masterpiece and bow out.
Man, I love Schindler’s List. Of course, it’s a hard watch, but utterly brilliant in so many ways. I tend to agree about Spielberg, but I did enjoy Lincoln. I can’t remember anything he did between those two films. Oh, hang on… parts of Private Ryan are brilliant: the initial beach landing and many of the sections before Matt Damon arrives. Then it goes a bit shit.
And by ‘doing a Cantona’ do you mean he’ll karate kick one of his fans?
The only important thing to keep in mind when judging your CD is: are you learning from him/her?
It might be learning how to do better work, or equally usefully, how to deal with shit clients. If you aren’t being educated, or worse, truly believe you know more than them, it’s time to fuck off.
Cantona’s look in the last shot of that Kronnenberg ad is truly magnificent. I miss him.
Was War Of The World’s shit? I liked it. Very B-movie, but in a good way.
As I said, Speilberg is a grand master, no doubts there. It’s just a pity that his portfolio is peppered with crap. For example, when I heard that Speilberg was in line to make War of the Worlds I was excited like a kid on Xmas eve, who has really rich parents. Just saying the two things together, ‘Speilberg’ ‘War of the Worlds’ wow! What an anti-climax. It says something when you are outshone by a 70’s musical.
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull? Get out of bed with George Lucas, the man who built and destroyed Star Wars. Lucas should stick to waht he is good at. Drugs, facelifts and selling off his empire to pay for them.
Cantona didn’t kick his own fan although nothing is too obsurd when it comes to the French. He simply gave a foul-mouthed fan a physical warning, got banned, won a few more trophies and bowed out at the top of his game at the club he loves, just like Scholes, Giggs and Van Persie.
I think Scholes bowed out at the top of his game. The other two are going to limp their way to a lucky Europa League finish in the worst season they’ve ever experienced. One will leave, the other will wish he’d stayed at Arsenal 😉
I thought WOTW was pretty entertaining, as were Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can. They were all B movies, though. Nothing like the greatness of Raiders, Close Encounters, Jaws etc.
I’d just like to step in here and defend War Horse. That was good, no?
And on the CD debate, it probably depends on the individual to a degree but I like the Aesop Fable about the wind trying to get the traveller’s jacket off with force and failing and then the sun succeeds by radiating warmth. This sounds a bit like a sermon, but I think Aesop makes a lot of good points!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/war_horse/
Totally off point but I’ve just completed the first movie hatrick I’ve scored since 1999.
Rush
Blue Jasmine
Captain Phillips
Don’t have anything to ad about the CDs I’ve worked with. I pretty much thought they were all cunts. But cunts run the world, don’t they?
What’s a movie hat trick?
@Terry
“Did Spielberg do Diana?”
I don’t think Speilberg was on that elite list. As far as I know, and correct me if I’m wrong they were:
Major James Hewitt
Will Carling
Prince Charles
Dodi Al Fayed
Barry Mannakee
James Gilbey
Oliver Whore
Rockstar Bryan Adams
… you could maybe include butler Paul Burrell for acts of voyeurism.
Posting this far too late for anyone to give a toss…
Most (all?) CD’s / ECD’s were simply ‘Creatives’ before they were promoted. Thus they could (if they wanted to) adjust their management style in line with what they’ve observed in their past. Emulate the good, discard the bad etc.
Whereas directors often start as just that. Directors. Albeit on much smaller projects. They may never have been on a film set in any other role. And so a question that I’m often asked by directors is ‘How does the other guy do it?’. Often a director’s ‘style’ is exactly the person they are.
I don’t know if that’s a good or a bad thing. But it’s different to the advertising model.
And a last point (because – fuck it – no-one’s reading this anyway) the digital workflow means it’s easier to work like SS (and keep giving direction whilst the camera is rolling) than it is to work like AM (on the basis that the word ‘cut’ is bandied about less with and Alexa etc).
Right. I’m off to have my lunch.