ITIAPTWC Episode 15 part 2 – Sean Doyle

Kate Stanners is an incredibly creative person.
From her time at GGT under Dave Trott, via Bates Dorland, to the genesis of St Luke’s, her own start-up and then to her current position as Global CCO of Saatchi and Saatchi, Kate has taken career decisions that were unusual and, at the time, risky.
And yet they worked.
There are very few people in advertising you can say that about, and very, very few of them are women.
So Kate is a great example to anyone out there who wants to make it.
Don’t necessarily take the career path that looks most likely to make sense and create an obvious path to success. Instead, take the road less travelled and end up even more successful.
In our chat you can hear all about those decisions, along with…
How helpful it is/isn’t to have a CD for a dad.
How this Flake ad came about:
Why GGT under Dave Trott was like doing 20 years’ work in 5 years.
How the big personalities of Tim Mellors and Graham Fink worked out.
Why GGT was Dave’s attempt to beat John Webster
Why International + Andrew Cracknell meant a move to Bates Dorland
How St Luke’s began.
Why they didn’t enter awards.
What happened when they made ‘chronic’ business decisions.
…but were one of the forerunners of producing ‘content’.
The strange similarity between GGT and St Luke’s.
How it works with four creative directors and no creatives.
What it’s like when you turn up for a pitch and discover you’ve forgotten the work.
How and why you might split up with your partner of 14 years.
Whether you should start up an agency with your husband at the same time as you have your first child.
How GGT led to HHCL, which led to St Luke’s, which led to Mother.
Why Saatchi and Saatchi was and wasn’t the right thing at the right time.
How the best process can be no process.
Why playing to your position is a great skill to learn.
Why it’s never too late to champion women in advertising.
And how great it is to keep learning, particularly from the younger people in your agency.
Here’s much of the best work she’s CD-ed.
As you’ll here in the intro and the interview, it was a very enjoyable chat. Here’s the Soundcloud link, the iTunes feed and the easy old thing you can click on right here (no idea why there are two of them; unlike the last couple of weeks, it all fits in one episode).
I only really need one word to introduce Mr. Warren:
Of course he’s done many other things (see below), but Wasssuuuppp could credibly claim to be the most famous ad of the last thirty years. Through the relatively new medium of ’email’ it spread around the world like wildfire, leading to the cool and the sad alike to say Wasssuuuppp several times a day. And they still do it now: I was watching the most recent series of American Dad last week and sure enough, one of the characters gave a fine ‘Waaasssuuuppp’.
Anyway, we talk about that a fair bit, but we also chat about his agency and…
How his mother’s death was like a starting gun to his career.
How a search for the American Dave Trott led him to Ed McCabe.
Why working for Ed was like being in The Devil Wears Prada.
Why driving a horse and carriage around Central Park can be a good ‘resume burner’ and a great way to see pimps, assassins and a guy with a crossbow.
How to be a non-immigrant immigrant.
How Vinny knew Wasssuuppp was going to be amazing from the very beginning.
What he had to say to convince the director to take it on.
Why the cultural appropriation of it was like having too much cake.
Why Vinny’s attempts to kill it made it more popular.
What it was like winning the Cannes Grand Prix.
How the enormous amount of cake and a ticking clock made him bored enough to start his own agency.
Why it helps to never be satisfied.
Why a new agency’s success depends entirely on how the partners work together.
How DDB Chicago’s PR dept can get you an interview on Irish radio.
Why advertising is communication, not technology.
So here’s the iTunes link, the Soundcloud link and the chat….
And the work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJL15n5P9BU